In this conversation, Steve Griggs discusses the growing trend of outdoor living spaces in home design, emphasizing the importance of treating outdoor areas as extensions of the home and a significant way to increase ROI. He shares insights on creating cohesive designs that integrate indoor and outdoor spaces, the benefits of planning outdoor features during the initial home build, and the challenges faced in landscape design. The discussion also touches on regional differences in outdoor preferences, the impact of COVID-19 on buyer expectations, and the potential for increased home value through thoughtful landscaping.